Comments on: Kiln and question about vintage fabrics http://marlaineverhelst.com/blog/2009/03/10/kiln-and-question-about-vintage-fabrics/ Poppenkunst / Doll-Art Thu, 23 Feb 2012 13:06:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Terry Weiss http://marlaineverhelst.com/blog/2009/03/10/kiln-and-question-about-vintage-fabrics/comment-page-1/#comment-143 Terry Weiss Mon, 28 Dec 2009 20:04:43 +0000 http://marlaineverhelst.com/blog/?p=82#comment-143 First I should say I wrote the book "The Consumer's guide to Vintage Clothing" in 1987, so have spent a lot of time trying to get vintage fabrics to behave nicely. The kitty litter in a sealed plastic bag tip is hands down the best advice given here. The main thing is having the patience to wait it out. For example, I used it for a sewing machine case (cloth on board, as it was an old one) recently and it took 4 months - however, in the end all the mold and musty odors were gone. Since washing something like this (the sewing machine case) is impossible, a dry method was the only possible solution. Second is the baking soda - although "washing soda" is well worth a try. I see that someone has also mention "Orvus" and this is the only soap you should ever use on vintage fabrics. This is what museums use for wet cleaning textiles, so museum supply companies will have it. It's much cheaper at stores selling supplies for animal farming. It's also used for washing cows, horses, dogs and cats. The virtue is that it will wash out completely, which almost no other soap (including so-called "delicate wash" products) will. In the U.S. we have feed and seed stores, but don't know what they are called in the Netherlands. However, I'll bet you've got them. Just ask for the product they sell for washing live stock and you'll get it. I paid $5 for a pound of it several years ago, and still have some left. Even if it dries out and gets solid, you can just add water and it'll come back to life. You only need a tiny bit to get a dish pan full of suds. When all else fails and the only alternative is to throw it out, and if you are working with cotton or linen, use hot water, Orvus, and - gulp - chlorine bleach. It will deteriorate the fabric somewhat, how much depends on the condition when you start; but a doll is not going to be moving her arms and legs, so the actual wear once it's sewn up is minimal and the cotton and linen fabrics will last a good long time. Chlorine bleach will destroy wool and silk and weaken rayon, so try anything else on these fabrics and toss them out if nothing else works. Or, just stick the offending fabric in a plastic bag with kitty litter, tuck it away somewhere, and when you find it in a year or two, it'll probably have taken care of itself! First I should say I wrote the book “The Consumer’s guide to Vintage Clothing” in 1987, so have spent a lot of time trying to get vintage fabrics to behave nicely. The kitty litter in a sealed plastic bag tip is hands down the best advice given here. The main thing is having the patience to wait it out. For example, I used it for a sewing machine case (cloth on board, as it was an old one) recently and it took 4 months – however, in the end all the mold and musty odors were gone. Since washing something like this (the sewing machine case) is impossible, a dry method was the only possible solution. Second is the baking soda – although “washing soda” is well worth a try. I see that someone has also mention “Orvus” and this is the only soap you should ever use on vintage fabrics. This is what museums use for wet cleaning textiles, so museum supply companies will have it. It’s much cheaper at stores selling supplies for animal farming. It’s also used for washing cows, horses, dogs and cats. The virtue is that it will wash out completely, which almost no other soap (including so-called “delicate wash” products) will. In the U.S. we have feed and seed stores, but don’t know what they are called in the Netherlands. However, I’ll bet you’ve got them. Just ask for the product they sell for washing live stock and you’ll get it. I paid $5 for a pound of it several years ago, and still have some left. Even if it dries out and gets solid, you can just add water and it’ll come back to life. You only need a tiny bit to get a dish pan full of suds.

When all else fails and the only alternative is to throw it out, and if you are working with cotton or linen, use hot water, Orvus, and – gulp – chlorine bleach. It will deteriorate the fabric somewhat, how much depends on the condition when you start; but a doll is not going to be moving her arms and legs, so the actual wear once it’s sewn up is minimal and the cotton and linen fabrics will last a good long time. Chlorine bleach will destroy wool and silk and weaken rayon, so try anything else on these fabrics and toss them out if nothing else works. Or, just stick the offending fabric in a plastic bag with kitty litter, tuck it away somewhere, and when you find it in a year or two, it’ll probably have taken care of itself!

]]> By: Marlaine Verhelst http://marlaineverhelst.com/blog/2009/03/10/kiln-and-question-about-vintage-fabrics/comment-page-1/#comment-142 Marlaine Verhelst Sun, 13 Dec 2009 15:19:27 +0000 http://marlaineverhelst.com/blog/?p=82#comment-142 Thanks a lot, Shirley. Now I have to find out what baking soda is in Dutch. Or I will take some from the US. We will keep in touch about the Los Osos class in 2011. Thanks a lot, Shirley. Now I have to find out what baking soda is in Dutch. Or I will take some from the US. We will keep in touch about the Los Osos class in 2011.

]]> By: sjmdev http://marlaineverhelst.com/blog/2009/03/10/kiln-and-question-about-vintage-fabrics/comment-page-1/#comment-141 sjmdev Sat, 12 Dec 2009 22:44:00 +0000 http://marlaineverhelst.com/blog/?p=82#comment-141 Well I am a little late on this but it has been a busy year! I always use a solution of cold water (about 3 gallons) and a half cup of BAKING SODA not baking powder. Used by our mothers and grandmothers to clean up all types of smells and other things. For example, many people put baking soda in their kitty boxes, down the drains (with vinigar sets off chemical reaction but cleans much). Baking soda is safe for your clothes (I put a half cup in my lingerie load to get rid of soaps and etc,.) Shirley Montague-Devine P.S. it is an environmentially safe solution. Read the box. It is safe. Well I am a little late on this but it has been a busy year! I always use a solution of cold water (about 3 gallons) and a half cup of BAKING SODA not baking powder. Used by our mothers and grandmothers to clean up all types of smells and other things. For example, many people put baking soda in their kitty boxes, down the drains (with vinigar sets off chemical reaction but cleans much). Baking soda is safe for your clothes (I put a half cup in my lingerie load to get rid of soaps and etc,.)
Shirley Montague-Devine

P.S. it is an environmentially safe solution. Read the box. It is safe.

]]> By: Marlaine Verhelst http://marlaineverhelst.com/blog/2009/03/10/kiln-and-question-about-vintage-fabrics/comment-page-1/#comment-119 Marlaine Verhelst Tue, 21 Jul 2009 09:57:47 +0000 http://marlaineverhelst.com/blog/?p=82#comment-119 Hi Lesley, Thanks a lot for your advice. I don't know this product in the Netherlands, but I am often in the US. Looking forward to seeing you in Arrowmont, Marlaine Hi Lesley,

Thanks a lot for your advice. I don’t know this product in the Netherlands, but I am often in the US.

Looking forward to seeing you in Arrowmont,
Marlaine

]]> By: Lesley Keeble http://marlaineverhelst.com/blog/2009/03/10/kiln-and-question-about-vintage-fabrics/comment-page-1/#comment-117 Lesley Keeble Mon, 20 Jul 2009 18:17:00 +0000 http://marlaineverhelst.com/blog/?p=82#comment-117 Hi marlaine , I use something called Orvus Paste to get rid of weird fabric smells an even act pee on fabrics It is available at FArm and Feed Stores and Fearmers use it to wash pigs because pigs are very tender creatures. Weavers also use it to clean the LAnolin and junk out of sheared wool before spinning . My garment sewing friends and ladies who like fanncy, delicate underwear use it to wash all that stuff . It is creamy and comes in a jar and is used to wash by hand or in the machine . Costs $25. here in North CARolina . I wonder if you have it or something like it in the Netherlands. see you soon at the conference, Lesley Keeble Hi marlaine ,

I use something called Orvus Paste to get rid of weird fabric smells an even act pee on fabrics It is available at FArm and Feed Stores and Fearmers use it to wash pigs because pigs are very tender creatures. Weavers also use it to clean the LAnolin and junk out of sheared wool before spinning . My garment sewing friends and ladies who like fanncy, delicate underwear use it to wash all that stuff .
It is creamy and comes in a jar and is used to wash by hand or in the machine . Costs $25. here in North CARolina . I wonder if you have it or something like it in the Netherlands.

see you soon at the conference,
Lesley Keeble

]]> By: Marlaine http://marlaineverhelst.com/blog/2009/03/10/kiln-and-question-about-vintage-fabrics/comment-page-1/#comment-81 Marlaine Fri, 17 Apr 2009 12:11:31 +0000 http://marlaineverhelst.com/blog/?p=82#comment-81 Hi Michelle, Good to hear from you again. I am certainly going to give this a try. I never DRINK coffee anyway ;). Thanks a lot for your help, Marlaine Hi Michelle,

Good to hear from you again. I am certainly going to give this a try. I never DRINK coffee anyway ;) .
Thanks a lot for your help,
Marlaine

]]> By: michele oneil http://marlaineverhelst.com/blog/2009/03/10/kiln-and-question-about-vintage-fabrics/comment-page-1/#comment-80 michele oneil Fri, 17 Apr 2009 01:25:48 +0000 http://marlaineverhelst.com/blog/?p=82#comment-80 Marlaine, I have found the really stubborn smells especially with fur and vintage fabrics can be taken away y placing the fabric in a plastic garbage bag with a can of coffee (poke holes in the can or put dry grounds in an open bag) and tie up for a week or so. You can also clean the fabric as stated above first then lace it in the coffee bag for a few days.. Never have used the kitty litter, but will give it a try.. As Always, Michele Marlaine,
I have found the really stubborn smells especially with fur and vintage fabrics can be taken away y placing the fabric in a plastic garbage bag with a can of coffee (poke holes in the can or put dry grounds in an open bag) and tie up for a week or so. You can also clean the fabric as stated above first then lace it in the coffee bag for a few days.. Never have used the kitty litter, but will give it a try..
As Always,
Michele

]]> By: Marlaine Verhelst http://marlaineverhelst.com/blog/2009/03/10/kiln-and-question-about-vintage-fabrics/comment-page-1/#comment-77 Marlaine Verhelst Mon, 06 Apr 2009 07:36:56 +0000 http://marlaineverhelst.com/blog/?p=82#comment-77 Hello Allegra, These tips about the kitty litter and the lavender oil are new to me so I certainly am going to try it out. Thanks a lot for your kind words. See you in the class. Warm regards, Marlaine Hello Allegra,
These tips about the kitty litter and the lavender oil are new to me so I certainly am going to try it out. Thanks a lot for your kind words. See you in the class.
Warm regards,
Marlaine

]]> By: Allegra http://marlaineverhelst.com/blog/2009/03/10/kiln-and-question-about-vintage-fabrics/comment-page-1/#comment-76 Allegra Sat, 04 Apr 2009 09:14:44 +0000 http://marlaineverhelst.com/blog/?p=82#comment-76 Hello Marlaine, One way of getting the musty smell out of delicate fabrics is to place them in a container where you first add several cupfuls of kitty litter. then place the fabric on top. If the piece is rather larger you may want to put a layer of fabric, one of kitty litter, a layer of fabric, one of kitty litter and so on until you cover the whole thing with kitty litter. The natural carbon in the kitty litter will absorb the brunt of the smell but then you will have to wash the fabric in soap and air the material. I have done this several times with stubborn old pieces but it has worked for me. Airing the fabric is always a good first step, and once you have it clean make sure to keep a little cotton ball impregnated with lavender oil without touching the fabric but nearby. For some reason lavender oil seems to keep the musty smell at bay. Good luck, and your dolls are magical, I am so glad I found you. I am looking forward to taking the May classes. Best, Allegra Hello Marlaine,

One way of getting the musty smell out of delicate fabrics is to place them in a container where you first add several cupfuls of kitty litter. then place the fabric on top. If the piece is rather larger you may want to put a layer of fabric, one of kitty litter, a layer of fabric, one of kitty litter and so on until you cover the whole thing with kitty litter. The natural carbon in the kitty litter will absorb the brunt of the smell but then you will have to wash the fabric in soap and air the material. I have done this several times with stubborn old pieces but it has worked for me. Airing the fabric is always a good first step, and once you have it clean make sure to keep a little cotton ball impregnated with lavender oil without touching the fabric but nearby. For some reason lavender oil seems to keep the musty smell at bay. Good luck, and your dolls are magical, I am so glad I found you. I am looking forward to taking the May classes. Best,

Allegra

]]> By: Marlaine Verhelst http://marlaineverhelst.com/blog/2009/03/10/kiln-and-question-about-vintage-fabrics/comment-page-1/#comment-71 Marlaine Verhelst Mon, 16 Mar 2009 08:47:54 +0000 http://marlaineverhelst.com/blog/?p=82#comment-71 Hi Miss Mary, Thank you so much for your post. By 'soap' I suppose you mean the old fashioned soap our grandmothers used? I certainly will going to try your tips. Marlaine Hi Miss Mary,
Thank you so much for your post. By ‘soap’ I suppose you mean the old fashioned soap our grandmothers used? I certainly will going to try your tips.
Marlaine

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